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April 1st, 2008 at 10:45 am
I hate chemistry!!!
April 1st, 2008 at 10:57 am
A periodic refresher course in the subject might be good.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:07 am
Oh, that was supposed to be a hint, not an admonition.
see, smiley face!
April 1st, 2008 at 11:13 am
I know. I am just to lazy right now to dig to much. I wonder what conection the picture has.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:19 am
I got:
Cd 2 Mn 2 N P S Na Ti N
?
April 1st, 2008 at 11:20 am
Code to Maintain P.S. Nation ?
April 1st, 2008 at 11:21 am
Cowpatty,
The name of the Doc is hilarious.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:25 am
Ah, well, for what it’s worth, image is:
Betsy Ross presenting the Old Glory by Walter Haskell Hinton (1950)
April 1st, 2008 at 11:26 am
You see… that’s why I shouldn’t be playing… I didn’t even look at that twice!
April 1st, 2008 at 11:29 am
The Doc that is.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:29 am
I seem to enjoy coming up with interesting names for my characters.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:43 am
Stop giving away my secrets amber…. I had their sympathy for a couple of minutes there.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:45 am
Really? Which puzzle was that on? Must have been the phonetic puzzle. Were you the one that suggested the Fibbonachi sequence?
April 1st, 2008 at 11:47 am
So amber and indeedity are friends? From across the pond no less
April 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am
Cowpattybill,
Yes, the Watergate Hotel.
indeedity,
AHA! Your scheme is foiled!
April 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am
do we get bonus points for being at a cultural disadvantage?
April 1st, 2008 at 11:56 am
There are actually a decent percentage of people that play this game from countries other than the US. Perhaps I should consider that next game.
Interestingly, none are from China.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am
anyway… back on track…
I have the elements and their order, but still haven’t made sense of it yet, am i missing something ridiculously obvious?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:00 pm
indeedity,
I would give you an ADVANTAGE due to the time difference, I guess you are not at work?
Also, you may find me to be more of a grenadier than a general in this battle.
So: any sense of Cd 2 Mn 2 N PS?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:02 pm
11/22/07 = Na TI 0N
April 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
code to mention ps nation?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Possible misdirection: are we sure we have combined them in the right way to see what they become?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I don’t think Cowpattybill could possibly expect us to make this into an acknowledged chemical formula… could he?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Possible anagram.
The “Nation” combined with the flag makes me think not.
Of course I may be stuck on the “License Plate Lingo”
April 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pm
indeedity,
I wouldn’t put it past him, remember the math-to-find-the-latitude/longitude-of-the-buildings-that-spelled-out-a-word-in-greek?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Gulrad…
Don’t think that we have the time difference advantage. By the time we wake up tomorrow, you will all be on puzzle 7! That’s going to be very disheartening!
April 1st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Fair point gulrad!
April 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Bicadbimanganesebinitrophosphersulfisodititanitride?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm
code to mention to passing action - constitutional amendment?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:24 pm
sorry… code to mention ‘to pass an action’
April 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Aha! The molecular structure of a Cowpatty!
April 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Gulrad…
Sounds feasible!
April 1st, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Bill of rights?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
code to maintain peace nation?
April 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pm
NOT constitution or declaration
April 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Of course in chemestry the number of each element usually comes after:
CdMn2N2PSNaTiN0
April 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
may be way off but 13 stars in the flag… 13 - aluminium… AL?
CdMn2N2PSNaTiN0Al?
April 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pm
It’s got to be: national code to maintain peace
but it’s NOT treaty
I feel so close (and yet no closer than before)
April 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Not:
Code of Conduct
Law
Laws
April 1st, 2008 at 1:12 pm
1776 is Chlorine Osmium Cl Os =
April 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm
The clue does only identify three unknown elements…
April 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Not:
Right of Assembly
Assembly
First Amendment
April 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm
not judicial code… but maybe along these lines?
April 1st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I hit the thesaurus pretty hard when I saw the lines you folks were following but no hits…
April 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
cowpattybill.
please please please tell us if we are all leading each other down the garden path!
April 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
hmmm… does that phrase travel over the atlantic?!
April 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I’m almost certain it is either:
Code to Maintain Peace, Nation
or more likely:
Nation Code to Maintain Peace
The meaning is the same anyway.
April 1st, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Primrose Path, yes
April 1st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
I am somewhat reluctant to provide a clue at this point. You’re already on puzzle 3 and it’s only been about 6.5 hours.
However, I will say that I’m not quite sure how you all got to where you are. You lost me. No clue here, just a comment.
April 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
oh no!
April 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Cowpattybill,
If you take the elemental symbols like Cadmium = Cd
and translate the three numbers of the date to elements like 11 = Sodium = Na
Then you get Cd2Mn2NPSNaTi0N
or NaTi0NCd2Mn2NPS
Just creating a Red Fish I bet.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
‘fraid so.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
cowpattybill.
I have decided that you are cruel!
April 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I could have allowed you to continue down the garden path filled not with flowers but with crimson colored fishies, but I didn’t.
Maybe that makes me cruel and not evil.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
If this is the first memo, are there more?
April 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Not Tannin,
I’m going to continue my lobbing of grenades here for a while, probably end up with a bunch of dead fish.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
note to all…
It IS april fools day, could mr cowpattybill be trying to fool us because we are getting too close too soon?!
April 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
or is that just wishful thinking?
April 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Doubt it.
What is Tannin?
April 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
UncleBen,
Plant extract used to tan leather, it is in tea and red wine.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I must say that I considered doing an April Fool’s joke on you all. If I had had more time I probably would have done something but as it was I was finishing the last few details for the game this morning at 6am. No extra time to trick you.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
hmm.. missed the turnoff for that tangent gulrad!
April 1st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
indeedity,
If we ignore the other elements and use only the ones from the date, it makes an anagram, sort of.
Not NATO, United Nations, UN
April 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
OR
EU
european union
April 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
if it is just those three, it might be a formula?
April 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
OK - I think maybe we need to start over.
Although I thought nation code 2 maintain peace was pretty darn good, here are two reservations I have with our current train of thought:
1) The wording in the note about putting them in order by date really doesn’t refer to the date on the note and using that date really doesn’t require order.
2) We haven’t really applied the atomic numbers to put the numbers in order as the note indicates (sort of).
April 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The only date I have seen so far is the 11/22/07
Three parts.
11 = Sodium = Na
22 = Titanium = Ti
07 = Nitrogen = N or 0N
Combined together, I can’t find any molecular structure that uses these three.
The word “Nation” is just so clear, that and the subject matter of the picture…..
April 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Not North America, NAFTA
April 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
The only numbers aside from the date are:
2, 2, 3 = He He Li
April 1st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I know - the nation does fit the picture.
My original thought was anagram rather than the “license plate” thing, but not enough vowels - unless we use Helium and Lithium.
Has anyone tried a cryptogram? But that doesn’t seem too promising in my opinion.
April 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
I am pretty sire that the painting is important. This is driving me crazy.
April 1st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Maybe we are looking for the hidden conversational message. Something like a personal address about condition would be the start.
April 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
mrsmathteacher,
Do you know of andys anagram solver?
It has helped me once maybe you could figure out how to use it better?
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 am
Ok, so, going back to the letter and how it says “if we get these in the correct order by date, their atomic numbers will reveal which elements they are”
Only date I can think of would be the date of discovery for each element, but, if that’s the case, they are already listed in descending chronological order:
Cd - 1817 (AN: 48)
Mg - 1774 (AN: 25)
N - 1772 (AN: 7)
P - 1669 (AN: 15)
S - known to the ancients (AN: 16)
But not sure how this “reveals” the other 3 elements - anyone else have any ideas/theories on this?
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:14 am
aloe01.
Manganese is Mn. Mg is magnesium
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 am
the elements do not reveal the other three… they are hidden elsewhere in the puzzle.
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:20 am
oops, I meant Mn, but its the correct date & atomic number (sorry, its still early)
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 am
The picture must be there for a reason. What’s the significance of it? How does it apply to the elements? I’m stumped.
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 am
If you have missed yesterdays discussions, I would have a read back through it all… none of us have it yet, but it might speed you through the steps and perhaps avoid a devious trap in a garden full of red fish!
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 am
I have used Andy’s solver quite a bit actually. But I can tell just by looking at it that it can’t make a word with only one vowel (asuming TI is correct).
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:29 am
Without giving too much of my theory away, I’m thinking the date or dates we’re looking for have to do with the stars on the flag.
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:34 am
I think you’re right. And I think we’ll see a numerical pattern before we can decipher the letters.
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:46 am
If we are talking about using dates. I took the date that the painting of betsy ross was actually painted which was 1950 and checked to see if any elements were discovered that year. In fact there was only one californium. I am not sure if this will give anyone any brainstorms.
Cowpatty are we even getting close or are we still in the red fish area?
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:53 am
The picture is the key.
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:54 am
So the elements are the red herring?
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 am
The dates that the “betsy ross flag” was in use was 1776/1777 to 1795. I found 8 elements that were discovered in that date range - not sure if that has any significance or not
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am
no kewljenoh. They’re important. gweebguy is on the right track.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am
I’ve been using this as reference:
dayah.com/periodic/
The 3 elements are not listed.
“if we get these in correct order by date” - refers to the 3 unknown elements.
The only date on anything so far is the 11/22/07 - 3 numbers.
“their atomic numbers will reveal which elements they are” - we need the names of the elements not the numbers.
“we can combine them together in some way” - this may be an anagram, chemical compound.
“experiment” - the quotes make me think that it is not an experiment in the normal sense, more probably a red fish.
“Like the picture” - not click-able, probably need more investigation, possible red fish.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:03 am
“if we get these in the correct order by date”
I think is referring to the 5 elements we are given, but what date I’m not sure.
The picture is the key? Hmmm…
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 am
It doesn’t appear the picture has been modified but it was pretty grainy when I zoomed in.
So we’re looking for the significance of what/who is in the picture or the significant events occurring at that point in history? Maybe?
Don’t forget, the US is one of the two countries Mr. Edwards is worried about.
I didn’t see anything from the past two puzzles that give insight/clues for this one but maybe someone else will.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:16 am
what about the atomic numbers representing the order that states entered the union?
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am
I double checked if anything significant happened on 11/22/07. I don’t think that it is a coincident that just happened to be Thanksgiving.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:24 am
Maybe the significance of the painting is that the event never actually happened.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:28 am
i checked the dates that the states entered the union and the dates that the elements were discovered… only cadmium and titanium match up… dont think theres anything there..
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:30 am
First reading definitely implies that 3 elements are missing, and that they’re identified by “date”, which we’re taking to mean use the date numbers as a key to look up the atomic numbers.
Find those 3, then they form an anagram of an abbreviated or pidgin statement.
The date of the note is 11/22/07 - Na, Ti, N. Analysis using those letters has been examined thoroughly and fruitlessly. What about the date of the painting, 1950? This could be 1-9-50 (H, F, Sn). Or 1776 - Given the preponderance of N already, use 1-77-6, (H, Ir, C). Or 7/4/76? (N, Be, Os).
With the P and S, I’d expect to see atomic number 74 - Tungsten, aka ‘W’.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:36 am
13 original states:
VA-1607
NJ -1618
MA-1620
NH-1622
PA-1623
NY-1624
MD-1634
CT-1635
RI-1636
DE-1638
NC-1653
SC-1670
GA-1733
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 am
Also note that the “Betsy Ross” style flag was adopted by the Continental Congress on 6/14/1777 (C, Si, Ir).
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:44 am
Gulrad - maybe a different order
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:45 am
Alternate reading of the first paragraph: “recipient of the first” - notice that in the picture, there are 3 men receiving the first flag. Legend (and wikipedia) implies that these are George Washington, George Ross, and Robert Morris.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:52 am
The dates the states joined the union:
1787 - DE PA NJ
1788 - GA CT MA MD SC NH VA NY
1789 - NC
1790 - RI
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am
June 14 — Continental Congress adopts the following: Resolved: that the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation. Stars represent Delaware (December 7, 1787), Pennsylvania (December 12, 1787), New Jersey (December 18, 1787), Georgia (January 2, 1788), Connecticut (January 9, 1788), Massachusetts (February 6, 1788), Maryland (April 28, 1788), South Carolina (May 23, 1788), New Hampshire (June 21, 1788), Virginia (June 25, 1788), New York (July 26, 1788), North Carolina (November 21, 1789), and Rhode Island (May 29, 1790)
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Maybe I mis-spoke. It would be more accurate to say that the flag is a clue, not the key. You guys (and gals) are wandering in the right direction.
Your in Indeedity’s garden but not quite on the path.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Alternate Listing (Founding Date):
http://americanhistory.about.com/library/charts/blcolonial13.htm
VA-1607
MA-1620
NH-1623
MD-1634
CT-1635
RI-1636
DE-1638
NC-1653
SC-1663
NJ-1664
NY-1664
PA-1682
GA-1732
I don’t know how you would get to this list with relevant dates and or states but we should consider the possibility that once you know the states (3?), you must go back to the license plates and take the plates that match the states to retrieve the clues giving the answer. Phew! Could be completely and utterly wrong…
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
UncleBen - Maybe another order
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
shewfig,
thanks, I was just trying to look that up.
The little girl is Betsys daughter?
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:07 am
The plates have only 4 of the states-
DE
PA
SC
GA
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:15 am
I just cross referenced the state abbreviations with the sybols of elements. There were 13 elements that matched. I then pulled the ones that matched the thirteen origional colonies. Guess how many I got. Three. I can’t make anything out of it though.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 am
I found 4 elements that match the colonies
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:27 am
Me too -
But you had my heart racing there for a sec Kewljenoh
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 am
Heehee, Pa only forms naturally by decay… Clearly this is an oblique reference by Cowpattybill to the upcoming primary.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 am
PA SC GA. What is the other one>
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 am
MD
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 am
Oops. I guess I got ahead of my self.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 am
UncleBen,
figured out a different order yet?
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:44 am
Maybe I didn’t have the list in the wrong order, maybe I had the process in the wrong order…
Hmmm…
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 am
Maybe re-ordering the plates by statehood date?
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 am
There’s got to be a connection to the elements
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 am
2UU IT WORLD- FND CKRT THIS 1
Not much of a beginning.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:56 am
Californium?
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 am
There’s also an Americium…
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 am
The states ratified the Constitution in the following order from 1787 through 1790:
DE
PA
NJ
GA
CT
MA
MD
SC
NH
VA
NY
NC
RI
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 am
Maybe geographical order? North to South. All coastal states.
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 am
gulrad - try alphabetical
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 am
Here’s a good hint. A certain order is required to obtain some of the information. At this point you have not determined that order. Then a different order, which you’ve already listed is needed to use the information to get closer to the answer.
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 am
Is the conflict between Gregorian and Julian calendars an issue?
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am
One could certainly consider all 13 original colonies to be members of the United States from the date of the Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776, or from the date of ratification of the Articles of Confederation.
from:
accuracyproject.org/usstatehood.html
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
13 states, 10 elements.
3 states left out?
BRAIN……CRAMPING…….blank stare, drool
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 am
This is slowly driving me crazy. have a bunch of other people from my office helping me and they have not been able to come up with anything either.
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
I put the colonies in alphabetical order, but I can’t see anything:
CT
DE
GA
MD
MA
NH
NJ
NY
NC
PA
RI
SC
VA
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 am
So, I’m thinking the following in regards to the 13 colony bit:
If you notice, there are 5 elements listed and two are used twice. giving us 7. there are three numbers in the date, and three that are unknown. If you add this up it gives us 13. All 7 of the given elements correspond to the first letter of one of the first states. S ->SC N->NY etc. I just can’t seem to figure out how Ti and Na fit in???
Is this on the right track?
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am
Seems you’ve drifted onto the path but it’s color is not yet golden.
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:47 am
Some chemicals end in ide…
PA RI DE
MA
VA
GA
SC
CT
MD
NH
NJ
NY
NC
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 am
ARG forgot to use the date..
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
11- NY
22- AL
7 - MD
48-AZ
25-AR
25-AR
7 - MD
7 - MD
15-KY
16-TN
?
?
?
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
In response to #130 - If I said yes then you would be under the impression that 164 was in response to 162. Perhaps this is what I want you to think but then again perhaps it isn’t what I want you to think at all. Then again, my previous statement could be entirely wrong. So I am faced with the possible dilemma, depending one whether I answer your question correctly or not, of whether I want to deceive you and stretch out the solution to this puzzle longer or whether I want to affirm your thoughts and thereby provide encouragement that your path is true. Since I prefer to do neither I will simply say that the answer to your question will not be found in any direct statement that I may or may not make but merely as an inference to any previously said statements.
Understand?
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I have absolutely no idea what you just said. Could you repeat that in english?
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Translation = possibly
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
anyone making any progress? found anything interesting?
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Tried to match 13 original colonies to the elements in order to determine missing 3 colonies/elements.
Our bid:
Vanadium(23) = V = Virginia
Rodium(45) = Rh = Rhode Island
Gallium(31) = Ga = Georgia
Can’t get Titanium(22) to = Delaware however…
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
7 red stripes, 7 listed elements.
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:56 pm
CT MA MD NY NC PA SC
leaves:
DE NJ GA NH VA RI
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:56 pm
or Rh(45) for RI
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
keep in mind that you can substitute any “N” state for NY and NC
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
CT MA MD NC NH PA SC
NC and NH have both have the letter I
Leaving:
DE GA NJ NY RI VA
Dega and Jenny Riva!
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
UncleBen is getting very hot!
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:15 pm
you’re half right
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 pm
who is half right?
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Now one of the sentences in the memo might become a little clearer.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
The path seems to be changing colors right before my eyes!
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
It seems to be getting cloudier to me. I am so confused right now.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I think this is the “Hot” bit:
“Tried to match 13 original colonies to the elements in order to determine missing 3 colonies/elements.”
This the “half right”:
“CT MA MD NC NH PA SC
NC and NH have both have the letter I
Leaving:
DE GA NJ NY RI VA”
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
You’re half right gulrad.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
you’re all right on top. Your bottom is all wrong.
(Referring to your comment that is)
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Order by date - what about considering the first 10 states admitted to the union. Our elements’ initial letters take care of seven of them, Leaving DE, GA and VA
But there are more than 3 elements that could be matched to these.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Let me clear it up a bit. UncleBen has almost found the missing elements. He has the right info to figure it out. He just needs to figure out what to do with what he has. Maybe UncleBen can better explain how he got what he did.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
UncleBen could you please explain your thought process a little more?
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Just to the point of figuring out which states.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Sure,
There are three I haven’t identified=three we have to figure out
If we get these in correct order by date, their atomic numbers will reveal which elements they are=11/22/07 which gave us sodium, titanium, and nitrogen but this may be wrong as titanium still doesn’t fit.
Like the picture?=13 colonies
Matched the first letter of the thirteen colonies to the known and suspected elements leaving Virginia, Rhode Island and Georgia (Delaware still suspect).
We went to ye olde periodic table and started with Virginia as there is only one element that starts with V. Rh matched the closest out of available Rish elements to Rhode Island. Ga, well, GA is Georgia.
There’s a sort of interplay between states-letters-elements that we don’t have quite nailed down.
Perhaps then we can combine them together in some way and see what they become. Literally.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
DE GA NJ NY RI VA
so the two Ns in the date elements leave:
DE GA RI VA
with Ti not being a clear guide for an elimination.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Comments on UncleBen’s process:
Date referred to in memo is not the date you’re using, it refers to putting something in order by date. Once in the correct date order, that information can be used to determine the atomic numbers which will reveal which elements they are.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Seems Iggy was a little too vague in his memo. Shame on him.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
We have listed all the states in a couple diferent orders, with clues given to “Try a different order”
By day of the month the states?
GA
MA
DE
CT
PA
NJ
NH
NC
SC
NY
VA
MD
RI
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Sorry, that should say:
By the day of the month the states joined the union?
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Here’s what I’m thinking-
If I put the 13 states in order that they joined the union that puts Unclebens 3 states VA, RI, and GA at 10th, 13th and 4th. Somehow this is supposed to reveal which elements they might be.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
wait. i’m on to something here.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Do I smell Gold?
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Or should I say AU?
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
gah!
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Perhaps we can combine them together in some way and see what they become.
Beryllneonalumanide?
Nope
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Ban?
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Holy smokes, I got it. Wow that was quite a ride. See y’all on # 4
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
If you know Andy, he can help.
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Why do I feel really really stupid right now. It seems to some people really obvious, but i am just not seeing it.
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Has to do with a question I asked mrsmathteacher.
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
AHA! Solved-
But I’m still not sure how we narrowed it to those three states. How could we be sure that DE wasn’t one of our missing items?
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I was wondering the same thing.